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Thursday, May 6, 2010

A Dangerous Precedent: Senators Lieberman and Brown Introduce Bill to Strip Citizenship from Terrorists

Although this may seem like a great idea and a "no brainer" this bill creates a dangerous precedent for one specific reason: Who defines a terrorist and what constitutes a terrorist act, the government? This is not always as simple as the Time Square bombing case makes it appear and what will the impact be if this bill is expanded to a more “loose” definition to include a “sedition” terrorist or “hate” crime terrorist as definitions of those terms come under attack. Do we want ideology of the party in charge determining citizenship to American, a country formed on the protest and the right to individual liberties? How long before this law is applied to those who speak out, march in the street or write critiques of those in power…..sedition is already a crime (sedition: term of law which refers to overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order) and has been used by several sources recently to describe the Tea Party Movement, Conservative commentators, Talk radio etc. (and trust me can be used against the liberals when the powers that be change to the opposing view) and can easily be rolled into this bill as terrorists acts that undermine the social and governmental rule of the day….. Just remember for every bit of freedom, the group in charge demands to apply their policies, laws and programs, the opposing party will demand their pound of flesh when they come to power…and this will just leave the citizens powerless with no freedoms of there own. We don't strip citizenship in American from those we despise, disagree with or who are traitors to our country...we in America capture them, deal with them, punish them and prove that terrorism cannot defeat the ideal of democracy and free society.

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Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and Scott Brown, R-Mass., will introduce a bill to strip Americans of their citizenship if they become involved with foreign terrorist groups…While the legislation would not apply to Faisal Shahzad, who is now under arrest for attempting to detonate a bomb in New York City’s Times Square, Lieberman said the bill was prompted by Shahzad and other Americans who have joined forces with groups that want to harm the United States….“It illustrates again the problem that has been recurring with American citizens becoming part of terrorist organizations,” Lieberman said, adding that the bill would make it easier to question terrorism suspects because they would no longer have the same rights as an American and would not be entitled to remain silent and hire a lawyer…An identical bipartisan House bill is forthcoming and will be introduced by Reps. Jason Altmire, a Democrat, and Charles Dent, a Republican, both of Pennsylvania….Brown said the bill was not partisan or political but rather a measure needed to keep American safe as groups like Al Qaeda work to recruit U.S. citizens to carry out terrorist acts on U.S. soil…Shahzad, for instance, said he trained in a Pakistan terror camp…“As they change the way we do business, we need to adjust the way that we respond,” Brown said.

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Bob Qat said...

A responsible government ought to review citizenship granted to immigrants who appear to commit felonies. Freshly minted citizens have seen their citizenship revoked before. For example, former Nazis who eventually were sent to face war crimes trials in other countries, also lost their American citizenship. The precedent is there.

The current Obamunist administration is not responsible government, but tends to be an authoritarian regime. They are willing to damage lives without the tissue of law. So the bill at hand is largely meaningless in current circumstances.

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