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Wednesday, January 30, 2008

Do Illegal Aliens pay taxes?

Do Aliens pay taxes? No, then why may they be getting tax rebates from this farce of an economic stimulus package? Here is the dilemma:

The text of the House passed bill contains language making "non resident aliens" _ illegal immigrants _ ineligible for the tax rebates. But every year, hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants use individual taxpayer identification numbers, known as ITINs, to file income tax returns with the IRS. These ID numbers are used instead of Social Security numbers. There are no exact statistics for how many illegal immigrants file tax returns, but this New York Times story from last year details the significant increase in use of ITINs.


Immigration advocates point out that many legal immigrants use ITINs, so it would be impossible to outlaw rebates for everyone who uses this form of ID in tax returns.


You have got to be kidding be on this, just plain crazy.


Read Here:http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0108/Lou_Dobbs_alert_Illegal_immigrants_may_get_rebates.html

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Haha! your a fucking retard I just finished my researched paper for government class about immigration Legal and Illegal it took me days to finish. Illegal immigrants pay taxes as well they have an identification number. Do some research before you spread stupid things around oh and try to get your facts from a place that you know is not biased or does not have the word blog on the website.

Anonymous said...

You're an idiot. Looking at your post, you also have a hard time with English. I don't have faith in your ability to research.
Some Illegal Immigrants do have Tax ID's. That is also illegal. a ITIN is meant for people living OUTSIDE the US who have investments in the Country.
Some Illegals also have SSN's! They are fake, and usually belong to someone else. Also illegal. Even so, the FICA and Social Security they pay is only a third of what they get back in services such as public education and emergency medical care.
What was your grade on your paper?

Jody L. Wilcox said...

First Rule of Debate and getting your point across is that using profanity and poor grammar negates your credibility and makes you look ignorant (which you obviously don't think you are.) What were your resources for this paper and did they include stats from the Social Security Admin and the IRS? Doubtful since illegal aliens are illegal and by default cannot pay taxes and/or partake in the United States social services legally. They may pay taxes through illegal means as in getting a illegal SSN # or by paying their employer taxes who in turn promises to pay the taxes for them but probably just rips off the illegal by pocketing the money. Research for a paper is great but if you only research the point of view you agree with them your really only reading half the story and not providing a full picture to those that read your paper. When it comes to illegal immigration we need to remember that this is a complex issues and simple solution cannot fix the complete problem (as we seen with those that want either all illegal’s deported with no consideration for the broader effect this will have as well as those that want open borders) by enacting simple solutions to complex problems. Thanks and have a great day!

Anonymous said...

You don't make any sense. who files for tax returns without paying taxes first. They put money into the system. They pay social security taxes. They pay medicare, and for what. Asking for retirement money is out of the question because people like you will deny they ever paid taxes. Have you ever thought of where all the money that was never returned to them goes. This nation knows about all the undocumented people that live here. They know that if they deport them the nation is screwed, because they pay taxes but they are told that they don't have the right to receive tax returns. All the money goes to U.S. residents and citizens, for their benefit, but you still complain because you want to look good in front of your political buddies.

Anonymous said...

This is to the ignorant people that don't research before pasting their SHIT!!!!!!!!

The IRS has seen an increase in the number of tax returns filed using an Individual Tax Identification Number. The system originally was designed for people living abroad who had investments in the US. But it quickly is becoming used by undocumented workers who aren't eligible for Social Security numbers. Last year, 1.4 million people filed tax returns using the numbers. That's an increase of 40 percent over the previous year. In 2003, 7,600 people in New Mexico requested the numbers. For opponents of illegal immigration, the system shows the federal government's fractured approach to the country's undocumented work force. Immigrant-rights groups say paying taxes is one way immigrants show they want to comply with US laws.

Anonymous said...

Obviously both of the "Anonymous" people who are ignorant of the first rule of debate are illegal immigrants or are a family or friend of an illegal immigrant. Why do I say this? Because you're both biase. Don't bother responding to my comment with your foul language because I don't consider you both as a reliable source, instead I consider you both as people stating their defenses for being illegal immigrants.

Anonymous said...

Obviously both of the "Anonymous" people who are ignorant of the first rule of debate are illegal immigrants or are a family or friend of an illegal immigrant. Why do I say this? Because you're both biase. Don't bother responding to my comment with your foul language because I don't consider you both as a reliable source, instead I consider you both as people stating their defenses for being illegal immigrants.

Anonymous said...

My parents brought me to the U.S when I was a year old to give my brothers and I a better life..... A life out of poverty. I'm here now and have no intent on ever going to back to the country I was born in....this is all I know...my earliest childhood memory took place in the U.S just like yours. My mother struggled to support 7 children on her own when my father was deported but she did and did so without the goverment assistance. Now i'm 21(f) and hold a good position with a great company in the tech field. I go to college...and pay for all of it on my own I cannot apply for college grants or goverment assistance because I am 'illegal' and do not qualify. I get money taken out of my paycheck every pay period for SS, unemployment and plenty more things that I will never get to take advantage of but yet we are looked down uppon by even the lazy unemplyed people we help support. We are forced to live under the shadows and to do illegal things just to coexist when many of us are contributing more than others who are' legal'who do nothing but leach of the system and do not want to better themselves and depend on that goverment check every month to live. Anyway enough ranting heh I didn't post to sound like I'm saying "poor me" but just to point out a few things. I am optimistic that one day a pardon will come until then I'll just keep on working hard, pay my bills, do my taxes and live life to it's fullest. Peace and love.

Anonymous said...

I am not part of this dumb ass conversation, but why the fuck do you all have to argue over stupid politics? I am tired of hearing this shit...FUCK YOU ALL AND HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I think its just human nature to hate on people who r not like them. Sad. You're all jerks.

We all came here illegaly at some point.
USA is a land immigrants. Tolerance.

Anonymous said...

you know what you are probably illegal so shut the fuck up you don't know what you are fucking talking about. I think you are the fuckin hater!! Yes it is human nature to hate so FUCK YOU ALL!!

Anonymous said...

Im replying to the comment above;

You say that with such pride. That is not anything to be proud about. I fell that its people like you that want out nation segrgated. Honestly, were in 2009 it is difficult for me to believe with all the education and knowlegde and influence from different culturals that we now have, that you can still think so ignorant. One or two illegal immigrant most likely did something to make you feel inferior or sad or even angry, so now you hate all of them. Which is the very definition of prejudice. I understand why you have so much hatered, its because your ignorant.

Anonymous said...

to the illegal immigrant above-, i am glad to here youre one of the "good ones", but how many good ones are there? how many are criminals? how many are here to make money and bring it back to mexico giving none back to the economy?

To anonymous- I never came here illegally. i have not moved from one country to another permanently. i am not an immigrant.

Anonymous said...

There are several different kinds of people in this country which we all call home: America. There are those immigrants that give all immigrants a bad name.

Some evade taxes, others pay.
Some traffic drugs, others have no clue.
Some jumped the border, some entered legally and fell through the cracks in the system waiting in line.
Some just come and accomplish nothing, others struggle with living day-to-day to accomplish something.

I think that the government should take certain steps to decided to whom amnesty should be granted. I am for the DREAM Act and other Immigration reform, and I am also for deportation for those who suck the resources from America. There are certain orders that need to be put into place to combat illegal immigration esp. with border control.

With immigration reform USCIS, ICE and other federal bodies need to determine who to grant amnesty to using a fine-toothed comb analyzing age, proffesional field, job prospects, education and/or other skills of trade, criminal record, tax history and other areas which "gives them points" toward Americanism and their potiential towards society and, most importantly, the economy. For example: the 28-yr old teacher witha Bachelor's should be granted amnesty before the 50-yr old gardner who hadn't stepped into a classroom since he was a child.

Also, with dealing the undocumented aliens would lead to filling the holes in the economy and health care. $$

Have a nice life.

Anonymous said...

I am an employer and I employ illegal aliens. Every year I get a letter from the IRS detailing the fact that the reports I provided were on people who are working under unofficial SS numbers and that I can not employ them any longer under that same number. I do not know how anyone can survive if they keep having to pay up to some guy for a new fake number every year. My people are usually no longer with me by the time I get the letter....

I am not your Father said...

What we need to do is start holding politicians and law enforcement accountable for upholding the law and the constitution. If they advocate in words or actions policy contrary to the Law of the United States regarding illegal aliens then they need to be held accountable as lawbreakers. Both under non fulfillment of their oaths to uphold US laws and the constitution as well as breaking the laws on immigration. If someone walking by my house decides I have a nice house then they currently do, does this give them the right to sneakily move in and make me support them? That would break the house for everyone wouldn't it. Official's are elected by people of this country, not those who recently hopped the fence. Enough is enough. This country was founded on immigration and a proud history it is. All are welcome...through the front door and legally. Don't tell me you snuck in the country, are illegal, deserve free health care, social programs and now the latest scam tax refunds with tax ID numbers all from American taxpayers. Then some even take it further and display their hate for the US stepping and spitting on the flag. Protesting how this country is horrible. In the real world they would be afraid to protest as they would get caught and deported. Enforce the laws now, no more amnesty. Apply through the proper systems to emigrate and welcome to the US and its native tongue of English when you arrive and start filing tax forms each your contributing your share to society. Sorry no welfare allowed for immigrants who have not contributed to the system for minimum of five years. Dont like that? Stay home then.

Anonymous said...

One interesting comment made was one by an anonymous user who states as some immigrants as the "good ones" i don't buy that shit there is bad people of all kinds. Stop listening so much to the MEDIA who puts whatever they fucking want on TV for you to become bias there is white gang bangers there is white killers also there is white immigrants. Most of the shit you watch on the media is supporting our corrupt system.
And to that fucker who said these people are "Biase" because they are illegal or probably have family and friends that are illegal shut the fuck up learn to spell bias first of all and like my great teacher told me once to understand the system and other groups of people you must learn about their ways to fight against them and you my friend have no clue what you're arguing.

Anonymous said...

wow, this is just unbelievable... My father was born in Jamaica and he served as a three time war veteran for this country (RIP Dad). My Mother is a native, a real native (Seminole). I have been told to go back to Africa and heard so many things over the years. Honestly, this is my land. This country is in deficit due to Foreign policies and lack of implementing the immigration laws. Most of the foreigners that I know (Hispanic, Hindu, Muslim, West Indian, African) work with the intention to send their money back home. So they can live a better life there, not here. Some do send money for more of their people to come here to work as well. I'm not saying that all do not comply with our laws buy there are a lot that don't. We, as Americans are loosing this country. Yes, this country is built off of immigrants blood and sweat but they stayed here and invested here to make it better for their children,which is us. But that is not happening now. Jobs are being outsourced to other countries or most jobs here are taken by illegals. There is no money flowing in. We are drying up people.. Lets be real..My daughter applied for a job at McDonald's and she did not get it because she does not speak Spanish. This is what it's coming to?? We could never do the things that they do here in another country. No Way. I fault the politicians for this. Not the immigrants. I don't blame them at all. It's our government who started all of this.

Emma Weekly said...

LOL!!!!!!!! LMAO Because im an alien and ive been paying taxes since my first job at 14 years old!!!

Your credability just went doooooooowwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn.

Why must people make fools of themselves? It cant feel good :0/ unless you get some odd turn on by having those feelings. Sick.